1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,880 (suspenseful music) 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,900 The BKA, 3 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:06,520 the German Federal Police in Wiesbaden. 4 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:09,770 For six years the agency is run by a man integral 5 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:12,008 to its inception, Paul Dickopf. 6 00:00:12,008 --> 00:00:14,097 (Paul chattering) 7 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:17,450 A top civil servant, with a seemingly clean record, 8 00:00:17,450 --> 00:00:19,503 he claims he opposed the Nazis. 9 00:00:20,445 --> 00:00:22,890 (dramatic music) 10 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:26,630 Until 1971, during Willy Brandt's time as chancellor, 11 00:00:26,630 --> 00:00:29,863 he is the top criminologist in West Germany. 12 00:00:31,424 --> 00:00:34,424 (suspenseful music) 13 00:00:36,922 --> 00:00:38,190 (Dieter speaking in foreign language) 14 00:00:38,190 --> 00:00:39,750 {\an8}Anyone who criticized him, 15 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:41,900 {\an8}or posed any kind of threat to him, 16 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:43,880 {\an8}was never allowed to forget it. 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,233 He held a grudge and destroyed such people. 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,670 Dickopf doesn't only forge a career 19 00:00:52,670 --> 00:00:54,990 for himself in West Germany. 20 00:00:54,990 --> 00:00:58,113 In 1968 he becomes head of Interpol. 21 00:00:59,430 --> 00:01:03,093 It's now his job to fight crime on an international scale. 22 00:01:04,774 --> 00:01:05,607 (Dieter speaking in foreign language) 23 00:01:05,607 --> 00:01:06,440 When Dickopf left, 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,730 Genscher, his Interior Minister of the time, 25 00:01:08,730 --> 00:01:12,063 held him out as an example to police all over Germany. 26 00:01:13,778 --> 00:01:16,442 (dramatic music) 27 00:01:16,442 --> 00:01:18,580 After Dickopf's death, in 1973, 28 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:21,264 staff researching files to compile his obituary 29 00:01:21,264 --> 00:01:23,563 make an astonishing find. 30 00:01:26,180 --> 00:01:30,123 They turn up documents outing Dickopf as a staunch Nazi. 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:35,082 His lifelong lie finally comes to light. 32 00:01:35,082 --> 00:01:37,090 (dramatic music) 33 00:01:37,090 --> 00:01:41,490 Dickopf was not only a member of the SS and a Nazi spy. 34 00:01:41,490 --> 00:01:43,380 Shortly before the end of the war, 35 00:01:43,380 --> 00:01:45,410 he switched sides to start working 36 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:47,283 as an agent for the Americans. 37 00:01:49,410 --> 00:01:51,800 Numerous CIA documents given an insight 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,713 into the work of Caravel, which was Dickopf's CIA code name. 39 00:01:59,130 --> 00:02:01,800 The highest ranking member of the German police 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,113 sold confidential information from the Bahn government. 41 00:02:08,810 --> 00:02:11,550 Chancellor Willy Brandt and his Ostpolitik 42 00:02:11,550 --> 00:02:14,440 was of particular interest to the Americans. 43 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,140 And Dickopf readily provided the information 44 00:02:20,380 --> 00:02:23,470 as did many other Nazis, during the Cold War. 45 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:26,150 They became willing helpers, spies, 46 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:28,160 because American intelligence services 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,921 used their pasts to blackmail them. 48 00:02:30,921 --> 00:02:35,921 (suspenseful music) (people chattering) 49 00:02:36,598 --> 00:02:38,520 {\an8}(Wilhelm speaking in foreign language) 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,300 {\an8}The Americans were never very bothered 51 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,360 {\an8}if the people they needed have closes ties 52 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,900 to mass murderers, or extremists, or terrorists. 53 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:47,883 The ends justified the means. 54 00:02:49,450 --> 00:02:51,100 American intelligence services 55 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:53,700 faced a new enemy, communism. 56 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:56,800 The US enlisted former Nazis as spies. 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,790 There was no attempt to punish them for their war crimes. 58 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:03,020 As the Cold War grew hot, 59 00:03:03,020 --> 00:03:07,650 {\an8}these Nazi collaborators became pawns 60 00:03:07,650 --> 00:03:10,020 {\an8}of Western intelligence services, 61 00:03:10,020 --> 00:03:14,340 for a variety of both psychological warfare type missions, 62 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:17,463 covert operations, and this type of thing. 63 00:03:19,306 --> 00:03:23,056 (dramatic suspenseful music) 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,300 Only now, are Secret Service files 65 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:40,410 from the Cold War, accessible. 66 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:43,110 And they contain documents about Nazis, 67 00:03:43,110 --> 00:03:45,533 who became willing CIA spies. 68 00:03:46,620 --> 00:03:48,660 Another case, that has recently surfaced, 69 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:51,360 is that of Eugen Steinle, a die-hard Nazi 70 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,460 who led firing squads in the Soviet Union. 71 00:03:54,903 --> 00:03:57,860 (suspenseful music) (airplane engine whirring) 72 00:03:57,860 --> 00:03:59,980 Steinle was thought to be among those killed 73 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:02,470 when a Lufthansa plane crashed near Nuremberg, 74 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:04,753 on the 20th of April, 1945. 75 00:04:08,430 --> 00:04:11,400 Eyewitnesses saw the burning plane in the sky. 76 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,230 And the crash sight is still visible 77 00:04:13,230 --> 00:04:15,233 in the Piesenkofen Forest today. 78 00:04:18,698 --> 00:04:19,990 (people chattering) 79 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:22,150 At the time, locals collected up everything 80 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:23,700 they found around the wreckage. 81 00:04:24,736 --> 00:04:27,736 (suspenseful music) 82 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:32,990 One item recovered was a briefcase 83 00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:35,670 containing documents and IDs. 84 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:38,540 Among them, was one belonging to Steinle. 85 00:04:38,540 --> 00:04:39,670 The briefcase was taken 86 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:41,593 to the local Nazi commander's office. 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,110 A few days later US troops marched into the area. 88 00:04:46,110 --> 00:04:47,310 And the briefcase was seized 89 00:04:47,310 --> 00:04:50,480 by members of the army's Secret Service. 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,050 The Americans were looking for Nazis 91 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:54,080 they could use for their own purposes. 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,980 And every personal detail would help them in their search. 93 00:04:59,230 --> 00:05:01,433 They suspected Steinle was still alive. 94 00:05:02,530 --> 00:05:05,640 CIA documents, listing the contents of the briefcase, 95 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,573 make it possible to reconstruct what really happened. 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,160 The Lufthansa plane takes off from Tempelhof 97 00:05:13,116 --> 00:05:13,949 on April the 20th, 1945, 98 00:05:13,949 --> 00:05:16,980 while the Battle for Berlin is raging. 99 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:19,610 Those on board know it's only a matter of time 100 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:22,360 before the Russians and the Western Allies, take power. 101 00:05:23,374 --> 00:05:27,038 (artillery booming) 102 00:05:27,038 --> 00:05:30,360 There are more than 20 passengers on the Condor, 103 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,433 among them, a number of men in leather overcoats. 104 00:05:34,747 --> 00:05:37,497 (engine roaring) 105 00:05:39,150 --> 00:05:42,640 The captain takes off under the cover of darkness. 106 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,520 The planned destination is Spain with a fuel stop in Munich. 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,823 But the weather is bad. 108 00:05:53,351 --> 00:05:55,169 (Karl speaking in foreign language) 109 00:05:55,169 --> 00:05:56,650 {\an8}I can still remember my father telling us 110 00:05:56,650 --> 00:05:59,900 {\an8}over breakfast about a low-flying plane 111 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:02,213 {\an8}making such a racket. 112 00:06:03,796 --> 00:06:06,629 (engine rumbling) 113 00:06:07,577 --> 00:06:08,640 (Maria speaking in foreign language) 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,947 A friend lives very near to here 115 00:06:09,947 --> 00:06:13,670 {\an8}and that evening, a burning plane flew over her roof. 116 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:17,040 Panic-stricken, her mother grabbed hold of both the children 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,020 and threw them and herself to the ground. 118 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:22,880 She said that since the father had died in the war, 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,780 the three of them should die together. 120 00:06:25,997 --> 00:06:27,490 (explosion whooshing) 121 00:06:27,490 --> 00:06:28,430 The plane crashes 122 00:06:28,430 --> 00:06:31,150 in a forest with no survivors. 123 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:33,450 Were there high-ranking Nazis on-board the Condor, 124 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:34,683 trying to get to Spain? 125 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,920 American intelligence flies the briefcase 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,076 and the documents to the US. 127 00:06:40,076 --> 00:06:43,076 (airplane rumbling) 128 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,890 The agents in Washington know the end of the war 129 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:52,270 will herald a new chapter 130 00:06:52,270 --> 00:06:54,563 in the confrontation of the superpowers. 131 00:06:55,710 --> 00:06:57,930 And, in order to secure an advantage, 132 00:06:57,930 --> 00:07:01,219 they will recruit former, top Nazis. 133 00:07:01,219 --> 00:07:03,969 (dramatic music) 134 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:10,080 They strike it lucky. 135 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,360 One man in the files is of particular interest 136 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,550 to the Americans, SS-Standartenfuhrer Steinle. 137 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:18,950 Their research tells them he was responsible 138 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:20,762 for mass murders in Russia. 139 00:07:20,762 --> 00:07:23,128 (gun firing) 140 00:07:23,128 --> 00:07:24,830 (dramatic music) 141 00:07:24,830 --> 00:07:27,820 The agents suspect he is still alive 142 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,310 as a number of witnesses report having seen him, 143 00:07:32,310 --> 00:07:34,122 after the crash. 144 00:07:34,122 --> 00:07:37,772 (mysterious music) 145 00:07:37,772 --> 00:07:40,522 (dramatic music) 146 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,723 Locals near the crash sight are questioned again. 147 00:07:49,070 --> 00:07:52,853 As a war criminal, Steinle is valuable to the Americans. 148 00:07:53,816 --> 00:07:56,566 (dramatic music) 149 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,120 It was impossible 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,120 {\an8}to systematically recruit intelligence agents 151 00:08:05,620 --> 00:08:10,400 {\an8}without systematically recruiting war criminals. 152 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,385 Those things went together. 153 00:08:12,385 --> 00:08:15,360 (suspenseful music) 154 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,470 They launch a manhunt across Germany 155 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:21,083 for Eugen Steinle who fled to his home in the Black Forest. 156 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:29,170 (dramatic music) (people chattering) 157 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:34,140 The net closes and in autumn, 1945, 158 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:36,430 the former SS intelligence officer 159 00:08:36,430 --> 00:08:38,980 turns himself in for interrogation. 160 00:08:38,980 --> 00:08:41,413 He knows his only chance is to tell the truth. 161 00:08:42,898 --> 00:08:45,815 (mysterious music) 162 00:08:46,878 --> 00:08:49,570 (Wilhelm speaking in foreign language) 163 00:08:49,570 --> 00:08:51,970 {\an8}A defector, who has something to hide, 164 00:08:51,970 --> 00:08:55,030 {\an8}murders, for example, can be blackmailed. 165 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:58,023 And is therefore malleable in the hands of his new bosses. 166 00:09:00,660 --> 00:09:02,730 Steinle collaborates. 167 00:09:02,730 --> 00:09:05,380 His testimony on the documents from the briefcase 168 00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:08,180 help the Americans to uncover an entire network 169 00:09:08,180 --> 00:09:09,833 of German spies in Spain. 170 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,800 It consists of dozens of ex-Nazis, 171 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,916 who followed the collapse of the Third Reich, 172 00:09:15,916 --> 00:09:19,150 are already working on their next crazy idea, 173 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:23,053 the Fourth Reich, which translates to worldwide fascism. 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,400 The Americans observe them 175 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,463 and recruit the Spanish players to work on their behalf. 176 00:09:32,071 --> 00:09:34,821 (dramatic music) 177 00:09:37,608 --> 00:09:38,970 Following his interrogation, 178 00:09:38,970 --> 00:09:41,870 Steinle is sentenced to death by hanging. 179 00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:44,790 But is then, surprisingly pardoned. 180 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:49,200 Did the Americans enlist him and influence the verdict? 181 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,030 There is no proof as important files are missing 182 00:09:52,030 --> 00:09:55,767 from the US interrogation center in Oberursel. 183 00:09:55,767 --> 00:09:57,050 (suspenseful music) 184 00:09:57,050 --> 00:10:00,270 (dramatic music) 185 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:03,920 Nazis like Dickopf and Steinle had become agents. 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,910 But the US intelligence services want more than just spies, 187 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:09,213 they want Nazi traitors. 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,690 Right up until the war was over 189 00:10:18,690 --> 00:10:22,023 the Allies believed the Nazis had an Alpine redoubt. 190 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:25,750 Even now the myth of missing Nazi gold 191 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:28,083 still lures treasure hunters to the area. 192 00:10:29,020 --> 00:10:31,053 But do these treasures really exist? 193 00:10:32,722 --> 00:10:35,722 (suspenseful music) 194 00:10:37,833 --> 00:10:41,250 (metal detector beeping) 195 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,730 Towards the end of the war German industry made plans 196 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:49,303 to secure its capital in the event of defeat. 197 00:10:51,628 --> 00:10:54,628 (people chattering) 198 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:03,240 This was very dangerous, to have such discussions. 199 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,920 {\an8}But nevertheless, the alternative of losing everything 200 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,990 {\an8}when Hitler was finally dead, 201 00:11:08,990 --> 00:11:13,000 however that exactly happened, was even more dangerous. 202 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,450 So they went ahead with this. 203 00:11:14,450 --> 00:11:18,533 And they started to draw up plans, 204 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,610 some of which still exist, 205 00:11:21,610 --> 00:11:23,330 on how they would attempt 206 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:28,330 to reconstitute Germany after Hitler left. 207 00:11:29,137 --> 00:11:31,210 (eerie music) 208 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:33,010 These activities were no secret 209 00:11:33,010 --> 00:11:35,760 to the Allied intelligence services. 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,335 They launched 211 00:11:37,335 --> 00:11:39,600 a large-scale international surveillance operation 212 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,223 code named Safe Haven. 213 00:11:42,288 --> 00:11:46,040 (suspenseful music) 214 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Safe Haven was the name of a US Government program 215 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:55,210 {\an8}whose task it was to track and seize assets 216 00:11:55,210 --> 00:11:58,560 that the Nazis had seized, had looted, from Europe 217 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:01,360 and were attempting to distribute around the world, 218 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,513 in order to, for use after 1945. 219 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,620 The Americans knew such plans had been hatched 220 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:12,680 by industry and even in the Reich chancery. 221 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:14,370 They were also aware of a network 222 00:12:14,370 --> 00:12:17,313 of foreign companies set up to keep funds safe. 223 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:20,930 In Monaco, in particular, 224 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:23,863 numerous shell corporations had access to millions. 225 00:12:25,172 --> 00:12:28,800 (suspenseful music) 226 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,750 One company was a broadcaster 227 00:12:30,750 --> 00:12:34,183 on whose board sat the then unknown Kurt Georg Kiesinger. 228 00:12:39,290 --> 00:12:41,990 He would eventually become chancellor of West Germany. 229 00:12:44,050 --> 00:12:45,020 The fact that he worked 230 00:12:45,020 --> 00:12:46,770 for the Foreign and Propaganda Ministries, 231 00:12:46,770 --> 00:12:50,283 during the Third Reich, didn't adversely affect his career. 232 00:12:53,810 --> 00:12:56,190 Allied agents submitted detailed reports 233 00:12:56,190 --> 00:12:58,120 about financial transfers. 234 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,050 Sometimes, they were even able 235 00:13:00,050 --> 00:13:01,963 to smuggle people into meetings. 236 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:06,730 This espionage operation was led by Allan Dallas, 237 00:13:06,730 --> 00:13:08,710 then a US agent in Switzerland, 238 00:13:08,710 --> 00:13:10,953 who later rose to be head of the CIA. 239 00:13:13,550 --> 00:13:15,170 He knew how to use his knowledge 240 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:16,840 of the Nazi's financial doings 241 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,913 to benefit his career in Washington. 242 00:13:19,769 --> 00:13:22,519 (dramatic music) 243 00:13:26,232 --> 00:13:27,065 (explosion booms) 244 00:13:27,065 --> 00:13:29,470 When a bomb attack destroys the Berlin Reichsbank 245 00:13:29,470 --> 00:13:31,300 in March 1945, 246 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:34,353 gold and currency reserves are no longer secure. 247 00:13:35,733 --> 00:13:38,483 (fire crackling) 248 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,540 It's time to put the plan 249 00:13:43,540 --> 00:13:46,680 into action quickly and thoroughly. 250 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:49,700 Everything is meticulously noted and checked 251 00:13:49,700 --> 00:13:54,700 as 360 tons of gold and 300 tons of silver and banknotes 252 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:56,823 are loaded up and taken away. 253 00:13:58,450 --> 00:14:00,710 Documents relating to the Reichsbank's gold 254 00:14:00,710 --> 00:14:03,190 remain undiscovered in the German Central Bank 255 00:14:03,190 --> 00:14:05,090 for more than 60 years 256 00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:07,573 when Karl Bernd Esser finally finds them. 257 00:14:10,402 --> 00:14:13,460 (Karl speaking in foreign language) 258 00:14:13,460 --> 00:14:15,340 {\an8}All the gold that was in the Reichsbank 259 00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:19,113 {\an8}was moved to Merkers or to certain depots in Bavaria. 260 00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:24,870 Now the Americans see their chance. 261 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:26,710 Thanks to Operation Safe Haven 262 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:28,903 they know exactly where the gold is stored. 263 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,950 They arrive in the Soviet occupation zone 264 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:36,050 at the Merker's salt line in the eastern state of Thuringia 265 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:37,783 before the Soviets themselves. 266 00:14:39,010 --> 00:14:42,120 They declare the Reichsbank gold to be Nazi loot 267 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,220 and take it with them. 268 00:14:44,490 --> 00:14:47,320 They also seize other treasures they find there, 269 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,450 including Italian gold reserves 270 00:14:49,450 --> 00:14:53,505 and gold from a national bank for Bohemia and Moravia. 271 00:14:53,505 --> 00:14:56,505 (suspenseful music) 272 00:15:02,340 --> 00:15:04,830 Were the hiding places in the Alps 273 00:15:04,830 --> 00:15:06,603 also cleared out long ago? 274 00:15:08,865 --> 00:15:10,030 (Karl speaking in foreign language) 275 00:15:10,030 --> 00:15:11,960 You definitely won't find any gold 276 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,410 in Bavaria today. 277 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:15,460 There was a settlement document stating 278 00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:17,540 how much gold the Reichsbank deposited 279 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:19,300 in the different depots. 280 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:22,550 These depots were all found largely by the Americans, 281 00:15:22,550 --> 00:15:25,810 who even went across into the Soviet zone to Merkers 282 00:15:25,810 --> 00:15:28,033 and quickly emptied the main depot there. 283 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:37,750 Karl Bernd Esser says it was an act of theft 284 00:15:37,750 --> 00:15:40,650 because it essentially means the Germans twice repaid 285 00:15:40,650 --> 00:15:42,560 their Marshall Plan loan. 286 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,873 Once with the Reichsbank's gold and once in Deutsche marks. 287 00:15:47,174 --> 00:15:50,174 (suspenseful music) 288 00:15:52,769 --> 00:15:53,690 (Karl speaking in foreign language) 289 00:15:53,690 --> 00:15:54,523 The Marshall Plan 290 00:15:54,523 --> 00:15:56,520 was a successful American invention 291 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,300 {\an8}of how to trick friends without them realizing it. 292 00:15:59,300 --> 00:16:02,690 {\an8}If I take a thousand euros from you and you don't notice 293 00:16:02,690 --> 00:16:05,230 and then I say, "I'll lend you a thousand euros 294 00:16:05,230 --> 00:16:07,340 and you pay it back with a bit of interest." 295 00:16:07,340 --> 00:16:09,540 You'd think, "What a nice gesture." 296 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:13,180 But in reality, I took a thousand euros from you already, 297 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,453 you just didn't notice. 298 00:16:17,071 --> 00:16:17,920 (dramatic music) 299 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,960 The US intelligence services 300 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,710 don't only use their knowledge 301 00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:23,620 and their treasures in Germany, 302 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:27,830 but also recruit Italian fascists during the Cold War. 303 00:16:27,830 --> 00:16:30,560 The idea is that they will fight communism 304 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,073 on America's behalf. 305 00:16:32,997 --> 00:16:36,495 (dramatic music) 306 00:16:36,495 --> 00:16:38,030 (explosion booming) 307 00:16:38,030 --> 00:16:41,210 Starting the 1960s a series of attacks 308 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:43,683 in Italy claim hundreds of lives. 309 00:16:44,830 --> 00:16:47,890 The violence is initially blamed on left-wingers 310 00:16:47,890 --> 00:16:49,560 but it's now known to have been the work 311 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,123 of right-wing radicals. 312 00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:55,943 Stefano Delle Chiaie is head of the new Reich party. 313 00:16:56,810 --> 00:17:00,060 He is repeatedly accused of terrorist activity 314 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:01,393 but is never convicted. 315 00:17:03,595 --> 00:17:08,508 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 316 00:17:08,508 --> 00:17:09,341 Our political position 317 00:17:09,341 --> 00:17:12,260 {\an8}was very simple and quite clear. 318 00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:14,880 {\an8}It was based on historical experience, 319 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,080 {\an8}for which we had great respect and that was fascism. 320 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,460 We tried to apply basic fascist values 321 00:17:20,460 --> 00:17:22,123 to the reality surrounding us. 322 00:17:24,397 --> 00:17:25,950 (water splashing) 323 00:17:25,950 --> 00:17:28,510 In 1970, the fascist revolutionaries 324 00:17:28,510 --> 00:17:30,870 and their backers want to stage a coup in Italy 325 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:33,370 and stamp out the left-wing parties. 326 00:17:33,370 --> 00:17:35,653 They discuss their plans with the CIA. 327 00:17:37,726 --> 00:17:38,590 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 328 00:17:38,590 --> 00:17:40,720 {\an8}We know the CIA was informed 329 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,833 {\an8}about these plans. 330 00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:47,270 On December the 7th, Delle Chiaie supporters, 331 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:49,630 the far-right Avanguardia Nazionale 332 00:17:49,630 --> 00:17:52,673 and parts of the military set their plan in motion. 333 00:17:55,630 --> 00:17:58,510 Their first targets are the state broadcaster 334 00:17:58,510 --> 00:17:59,760 and government buildings. 335 00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:04,340 The revolutionaries around Stefano Delle Chiaie 336 00:18:04,340 --> 00:18:06,463 believe they are pulling the strings. 337 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:08,730 But the attempted coup 338 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:11,133 is actually being driven from elsewhere. 339 00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:16,903 Although Delle Chiaie, still proudly claims responsibility. 340 00:18:18,178 --> 00:18:21,770 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 341 00:18:21,770 --> 00:18:23,223 I was responsible for the coup, 342 00:18:23,223 --> 00:18:25,280 {\an8}morally and politically, 343 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,433 even if I wasn't in Italy at the time. 344 00:18:29,170 --> 00:18:31,610 {\an8}The commandant had prepared a perfect plan 345 00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:33,960 which would have triggered a chain of commands, 346 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,556 starting at the Ministry of Defense. 347 00:18:36,556 --> 00:18:39,560 Everything was prepared and ready. 348 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,050 And, had the plan been activated, 349 00:18:42,050 --> 00:18:44,330 military units would have been mobilized 350 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:45,440 and would've taken control 351 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,273 of every strategic site in the country. 352 00:18:52,522 --> 00:18:53,620 The fight against the left-wing 353 00:18:53,620 --> 00:18:55,287 has a long history in Italy. 354 00:18:55,287 --> 00:18:58,140 And the US intelligence services have been involved 355 00:18:58,140 --> 00:18:59,433 from the very beginning. 356 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,520 Its influence begins with the invasion of Sicily, 357 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,949 when Allied soldiers fight and beat the Axis powers. 358 00:19:06,949 --> 00:19:10,210 (suspenseful music) 359 00:19:10,210 --> 00:19:12,690 But some Italian forces don't give up 360 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:16,473 and continue to fight on the side of the Germans until 1945. 361 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:20,070 One unit in particular is feared, 362 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:22,020 the Decima Flottiglia MAS, 363 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:23,983 the world's first frogman commander. 364 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:28,943 The Allies both fear and admire their daring operations. 365 00:19:30,170 --> 00:19:32,560 The leader of the unit is Valerio Borghese, 366 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,653 the Black Prince. 367 00:19:35,527 --> 00:19:37,990 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 368 00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:39,430 The Decima MAS, Prince Borghese, 369 00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:42,880 {\an8}was probably the best trained and most highly motivated unit 370 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,783 {\an8}in the entire fascist republic. 371 00:19:46,303 --> 00:19:48,220 (suspenseful music) 372 00:19:48,220 --> 00:19:49,770 It takes another two years 373 00:19:49,770 --> 00:19:52,093 before World War II is won in Italy. 374 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,329 And when the Americans finally march into Rome, 375 00:19:57,329 --> 00:19:59,483 they are welcomed as liberators, 376 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:05,700 even by the pope who shares the US fear 377 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,583 of a shift to the left in Italy. 378 00:20:08,515 --> 00:20:12,204 (pope speaking in foreign language) 379 00:20:12,204 --> 00:20:16,870 (crowd singing in foreign language) 380 00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:19,820 Because the communists are gaining popularity. 381 00:20:20,821 --> 00:20:25,821 (crowd singing in foreign language) 382 00:20:25,904 --> 00:20:27,720 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,850 The aim of the Americans was 384 00:20:29,850 --> 00:20:32,690 {\an8}to keep the communists out of the government. 385 00:20:32,690 --> 00:20:34,733 {\an8}To keep them away from power. 386 00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:43,180 CIA agent, James Jesus Angleton, 387 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:45,020 starts preparing a coup in the event 388 00:20:45,020 --> 00:20:48,048 that the communists win the Italian elections. 389 00:20:48,048 --> 00:20:50,410 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 390 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:53,320 Angleton had excellent connections in Italy. 391 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,840 He spoke Italian, even with the Vatican, 392 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,650 which back then, perhaps even now, 393 00:20:57,650 --> 00:21:00,500 has the most efficient intelligence service in the world. 394 00:21:03,870 --> 00:21:06,680 Angleton and Borghese became good friends. 395 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Borghese came from the fascist movement 396 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,120 and founded the Fronte Nazionale 397 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,920 as a way of bundling the different right-wing movements. 398 00:21:15,194 --> 00:21:18,430 It was all of the means of preventing shift to the left 399 00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:21,463 because the left parties were gaining strength in Italy. 400 00:21:26,782 --> 00:21:27,615 (audience applauding) 401 00:21:27,615 --> 00:21:30,180 The communists are the archenemies of Borghese, 402 00:21:30,180 --> 00:21:32,493 who almost killed him at the end of the war. 403 00:21:33,910 --> 00:21:38,003 To act against the communists the CIA enlists Borghese. 404 00:21:39,881 --> 00:21:42,859 (mysterious music) 405 00:21:42,859 --> 00:21:43,692 (audience applauding) 406 00:21:43,692 --> 00:21:46,140 Angleton succeeded in convincing the rest 407 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:50,907 {\an8}of the US government that the elections of 1947, 1948 408 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:56,780 {\an8}in Italy would lead to a communist government in Italy. 409 00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,420 And so therefore the Americans 410 00:21:59,420 --> 00:22:01,730 should sink millions of dollars 411 00:22:01,730 --> 00:22:04,350 into disrupting these elections 412 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:07,380 and disrupting particularly the left-wing candidates 413 00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:08,633 in these elections. 414 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,670 Operation Safe Haven pays off. 415 00:22:12,670 --> 00:22:14,810 The Americans used seized Nazi loot 416 00:22:14,810 --> 00:22:18,413 to finance Angleton's activities against Italy's communists. 417 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:21,730 The seized riches will never be returned 418 00:22:21,730 --> 00:22:23,763 to the victims or their relatives. 419 00:22:26,650 --> 00:22:29,790 The money was money, frequently, 420 00:22:29,790 --> 00:22:32,240 that had been looted from Europe's Jews. 421 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,180 Why? 422 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:37,000 The exchange stabilization fund was set up early 423 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,600 during World War II 424 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,370 to seize Nazi assets in international trade. 425 00:22:42,370 --> 00:22:46,073 It was part of the blockade of Germany. 426 00:22:47,601 --> 00:22:50,213 Angleton sets up a partisan army. 427 00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:53,863 This rarely seen footage shows training. 428 00:22:55,290 --> 00:22:57,980 Many of the partisans are battle-tested fascists 429 00:22:57,980 --> 00:23:00,263 from Borghese's frogmen. 430 00:23:00,263 --> 00:23:02,420 Gladio, as the unit was called, 431 00:23:02,420 --> 00:23:05,752 is under the exclusive command of the CIA. 432 00:23:05,752 --> 00:23:06,790 (gun firing) 433 00:23:06,790 --> 00:23:09,980 In the event that Italy democratically voted 434 00:23:09,980 --> 00:23:13,730 to become socialists, there would be stay-behind networks, 435 00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:16,820 underground elements that were armed and paid 436 00:23:16,820 --> 00:23:20,440 and ideologically prepared to attempt 437 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,013 to overturn that democratically elected government. 438 00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:27,400 But Gladio was called off 439 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,713 because the communists lost the first post-war elections. 440 00:23:33,050 --> 00:23:36,360 The mood is tense as the Soviets are forced to accept 441 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,323 that Italy now belongs to the US fear of control. 442 00:23:40,780 --> 00:23:44,443 And any hopes of a third way are dashed by Yalta. 443 00:23:45,523 --> 00:23:46,356 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 444 00:23:46,356 --> 00:23:48,390 Yalta meant the victors, or better said, 445 00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:51,300 {\an8}Russia, Great Britain and the US signed a treaty 446 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:53,940 {\an8}in which they divided the world into future areas 447 00:23:53,940 --> 00:23:57,200 of influence and shared it out amongst themselves. 448 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,220 Most specifically, they divided up Europe. 449 00:24:00,220 --> 00:24:01,860 The treaty remained unchanged 450 00:24:01,860 --> 00:24:03,920 until the collapse of the Soviet Union, 451 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,943 until the fall of the Berlin wall in the '80s. 452 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,083 Yalta puts Italy under US influence. 453 00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:16,530 It's clear that in matters relating 454 00:24:16,530 --> 00:24:18,900 to their political and strategic interests 455 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,183 the Americans will do what they see fit. 456 00:24:22,350 --> 00:24:24,320 And that they will not create space 457 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,283 between the blocks for a third power. 458 00:24:28,404 --> 00:24:30,289 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 459 00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:32,380 In the post-Yalta world in which the borders 460 00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:34,870 of the different blocks were carefully adhered to, 461 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:39,060 the respective hegemonic powers crushed any uprising. 462 00:24:39,060 --> 00:24:41,270 That went for Hungary in 1956 463 00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:44,230 and even more so for Berlin in 1953. 464 00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:46,530 And it went for every other revolt. 465 00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:48,780 And terrorism in Italy and Germany 466 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:50,810 really only served one purpose, 467 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:53,663 it was to stabilize the political status quo. 468 00:24:54,549 --> 00:24:55,382 (suspenseful music) 469 00:24:55,382 --> 00:24:57,040 As to the 1978 murder 470 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,053 of Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro, 471 00:25:00,030 --> 00:25:02,893 he was kidnapped and shot by the Red Brigades. 472 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,950 But numerous agents and intelligence services 473 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:09,410 were also involved in the killing. 474 00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:11,440 Many Italians believed Moro was murdered 475 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,093 because he wanted a third way. 476 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:18,910 Other powers were also involved in the 1970 attempted coup. 477 00:25:18,910 --> 00:25:22,796 Borghese and Delle Chiaie were just puppets. 478 00:25:22,796 --> 00:25:25,796 (suspenseful music) 479 00:25:29,693 --> 00:25:31,990 (Alessandro speaking in foreign language) 480 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:34,240 {\an8}We know of a telephone call with Borghese 481 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,120 {\an8}that took place between 1:00 and 2:00 in the morning. 482 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:38,620 And then the coup was stopped. 483 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:41,233 We also know that this call was 484 00:25:41,233 --> 00:25:43,123 with a high ranking politician. 485 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,790 In a written statement he made before his death, 486 00:25:46,790 --> 00:25:47,974 Borghese claimed that one 487 00:25:47,974 --> 00:25:50,419 of Andreotti's confidantes, Bana Bea, 488 00:25:50,419 --> 00:25:54,280 had called him and that he was acting on the instructions 489 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,743 of Andreotti who was the American's puppet at the time. 490 00:26:03,930 --> 00:26:05,650 The ones really pulling the strings 491 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:07,890 are high ranking Italians. 492 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:10,580 Right-wing politician Giulio Andreotti 493 00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:13,370 who was later prime minister seven times. 494 00:26:13,370 --> 00:26:17,180 And Licio Gelli, head of the P2 Freemasons Lodge 495 00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:18,503 and American agent. 496 00:26:19,662 --> 00:26:23,099 (suspenseful music) 497 00:26:23,099 --> 00:26:25,210 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 498 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,520 {\an8}They started to spread all kinds of lies. 499 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,740 {\an8}We're talking now about Gelli, who blew off the coup. 500 00:26:31,740 --> 00:26:34,640 We're talking about Andreotti who backed him 501 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,093 and who's still withholding important facts. 502 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:40,870 For example, that his friend, the public prosecutor 503 00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:42,320 of the coup of the charter Borghese, 504 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,640 who was also Andreotti's puppet requested 28 years 505 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,363 in prison for me and my comrades. 506 00:26:49,260 --> 00:26:51,560 You have to be careful with friends like that. 507 00:26:54,762 --> 00:26:56,260 (suspenseful music) 508 00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:57,590 During the attempted coup 509 00:26:57,590 --> 00:27:00,120 the US military flexed its muscles. 510 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:03,400 Shortly beforehand, the Sixth US Fleet was allegedly put 511 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,563 on a state of alert. 512 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,810 Hoping to impress the CIA, 513 00:27:07,810 --> 00:27:10,960 Gelli and Andreotti presented themselves to the Americans, 514 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,250 as influential figures capable of both mobilizing 515 00:27:14,250 --> 00:27:16,353 and calling off military coups. 516 00:27:20,154 --> 00:27:21,770 (dramatic music) 517 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:25,050 Fascists such as Borghese and Delle Chiaie 518 00:27:25,050 --> 00:27:26,870 have to go underground. 519 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:30,280 The US intelligence services choose South America 520 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,790 as the most suitable place. 521 00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:35,050 There, in their search for power, 522 00:27:35,050 --> 00:27:37,923 the fascists join forces with dictators. 523 00:27:40,556 --> 00:27:42,480 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 524 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,050 {\an8}Clearly we wanted to implement our ideology, 525 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:46,640 {\an8}and our conviction there. 526 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,790 {\an8}And our fight for fascism, fell on more fertile ground 527 00:27:49,790 --> 00:27:51,493 in Latin America than elsewhere. 528 00:27:52,490 --> 00:27:55,000 Many parties in Latin America had fascist 529 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,793 or national socialist roots. 530 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,610 But Chile is different. 531 00:28:02,610 --> 00:28:06,423 In 1971, Socialist Salvador Allende is elected to power. 532 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,360 His Marxist politics make him enemies 533 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,463 and many enthusiastic followers. 534 00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:17,850 This was perceived by the United States 535 00:28:17,850 --> 00:28:19,480 {\an8}as a tremendous threat. 536 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,040 {\an8}Because if peaceful revolution were to take hold 537 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,458 that would greatly weaken 538 00:28:25,458 --> 00:28:30,458 the United States ideological hold on South America. 539 00:28:32,370 --> 00:28:33,320 Under the instruction 540 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,890 of US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, 541 00:28:35,890 --> 00:28:39,000 the CIA becomes active in Chile. 542 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,620 The staunch anti-communist is not content 543 00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:44,363 to bank on Allende losing the next elections. 544 00:28:45,810 --> 00:28:48,860 In September, 1973, General Pinochet, 545 00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:53,100 supported by Italian fascists, stages a military coup. 546 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:54,773 The Americans leave them to it. 547 00:28:56,350 --> 00:28:59,853 The two sides, like Pinochet, want to wipe out communism. 548 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,627 (ominous music) 549 00:29:09,392 --> 00:29:12,000 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 550 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,950 We were in contact 551 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:15,513 {\an8}with Chilean comrades before the coup in Chile. 552 00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:22,630 In 1974, Commandant Borghese and I were in Santiago, 553 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:24,503 where we met President Pinochet. 554 00:29:25,379 --> 00:29:27,179 We started working closely together. 555 00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:29,970 When we arrived in Chile, 556 00:29:29,970 --> 00:29:32,083 we were greeted by President Pinochet. 557 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:39,950 In 1975, the fascists gather in Madrid 558 00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:43,040 to attend the funeral of a mutual and like-minded friend, 559 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,213 Spanish dictator, Francisco Franco. 560 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,720 It's here that the cooperation between Italian fascists 561 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,933 and the Chilean intelligence service, DINA, is sealed. 562 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,363 The ringleader is none other than Stefano Delle Chiaie. 563 00:29:58,430 --> 00:29:59,990 But again, his involvement 564 00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:02,413 in the ensuing crimes is never proven. 565 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:08,103 The first meeting of collaborators but it's not the last. 566 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,010 Pinochet himself, meets with these terrorists 567 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:15,460 {\an8}who have just pulled off this assassination. 568 00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:18,380 {\an8}And Monroe Contreras is there 569 00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:23,380 and everybody is having a kind of right-wing love fest. 570 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,210 They then, Stefano Delle Chiaie are given permission, 571 00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:28,950 apparently at that meeting 572 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:31,510 that they can set up headquarters in Chile. 573 00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:34,823 So the Italians then began to collaborate with DINA. 574 00:30:35,950 --> 00:30:38,757 There follows a series of murders. 575 00:30:38,757 --> 00:30:41,024 (suspenseful music) 576 00:30:41,024 --> 00:30:42,810 (explosion booming) 577 00:30:42,810 --> 00:30:45,240 Among the targets is Allende's former Foreign Minister, 578 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,183 Orlando Letelier, in Washington. 579 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:50,830 But terrorism on home turf is too much 580 00:30:50,830 --> 00:30:53,458 for the US which reigns Pinochet in. 581 00:30:53,458 --> 00:30:56,458 (suspenseful music) 582 00:30:58,170 --> 00:31:00,940 They talked about the weakness of the United States 583 00:31:00,940 --> 00:31:04,530 and its ability to defeat the communist menace 584 00:31:06,170 --> 00:31:09,840 {\an8}and the desire of the military governments 585 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,700 {\an8}in Latin America take the leadership internationally 586 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:17,833 to defeat the communist movement worldwide. 587 00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:24,200 The scope of this is mind-blowing. 588 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,097 They actually refer to it as World War III. 589 00:31:29,550 --> 00:31:32,533 Pinochet's junta prepares for this war. 590 00:31:35,049 --> 00:31:37,070 (Friedrich speaking in foreign language) 591 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:40,260 It included the wish to own toxic gasses, 592 00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:43,000 the production of biological weapons 593 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,920 and prisoners in Chile were killed during trials. 594 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,293 {\an8}And the production of toxic gasses, sarin and mustard gas. 595 00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:57,510 (men singing in foreign language) 596 00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:00,450 The research laboratory for inhuman experiments 597 00:32:00,450 --> 00:32:02,363 is located at Colonia Dignidad. 598 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,077 The hamlet goes from strange to sinister. 599 00:32:07,077 --> 00:32:08,316 (gentle music) 600 00:32:08,316 --> 00:32:09,470 (Friedrich speaking in foreign language) 601 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:12,620 Following the military coup of 1973, 602 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:15,701 Colonia Dignidad became a torture camp, 603 00:32:15,701 --> 00:32:18,710 a training camp for the secret service, the DINA. 604 00:32:18,710 --> 00:32:22,680 Complete with torture school, an arms smuggling center, 605 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,830 a center for alternative arms production 606 00:32:25,830 --> 00:32:27,160 and a place for the DINA 607 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,393 to communicate with the outside world. 608 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:36,240 This part of Colonia Dignidad 609 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,203 is sealed off with a death strip. 610 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,180 The underground torture chambers are well hidden 611 00:32:42,180 --> 00:32:45,840 so that from the outside, it looks like a farm. 612 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,153 Anyone who wants to be fooled, could be. 613 00:32:49,736 --> 00:32:52,850 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 614 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:55,200 {\an8}I was impressed by the compound. 615 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,943 {\an8}It impressed me because somehow I'm a dreamer. 616 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,343 I'd always dreamed of setting up a center for my comrades. 617 00:33:07,870 --> 00:33:10,550 I wanted to give them the chance to relax 618 00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:12,250 and take a break from their fight. 619 00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,300 I'd been thinking about something like that. 620 00:33:21,795 --> 00:33:22,639 (suspenseful music) 621 00:33:22,639 --> 00:33:24,390 Far from being just a recuperation center 622 00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:27,310 for Nazis, Colonia Dignidad is also used 623 00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:29,853 to produce biological and chemical weapons. 624 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,510 Chile's intelligence service 625 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:34,973 needs untraceable, deadly toxins. 626 00:33:37,690 --> 00:33:41,300 {\an8}There is a shortlist of people that have been confirmed 627 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:44,247 {\an8}to have been murdered using sarin gas. 628 00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:47,730 A German doctor is one 629 00:33:47,730 --> 00:33:50,333 of those experimenting at Colonia Dignidad. 630 00:33:52,238 --> 00:33:54,430 (Friedrich speaking in foreign language) 631 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:57,490 The doctor at Colonia Dignidad, Hartmut Hopp, 632 00:33:57,490 --> 00:34:00,070 who fled the Chilean courts to Krefeld 633 00:34:00,070 --> 00:34:03,863 {\an8}had a devil's workshop containing some 400 toxins. 634 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:08,300 Among them were poisons to inhale, 635 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:10,540 poisons deadly to the touch, 636 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:13,133 poisons that kill when consumed with food. 637 00:34:14,050 --> 00:34:17,980 It was a wild arsenal and nobody knows exactly 638 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,843 who fell prey to those substances. 639 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:26,280 (dramatic music) 640 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,660 The Cold War Nazis don't only support Pinochet 641 00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:32,830 but other dictators in South America as well. 642 00:34:32,830 --> 00:34:35,263 The CIA gives them free reign. 643 00:34:36,523 --> 00:34:39,273 (dramatic music) 644 00:34:45,768 --> 00:34:47,810 (people chattering) 645 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:51,240 In 1980, the military stages a coup in Bolivia. 646 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:54,080 Known as the Cocaine Coup it brings the mafia, 647 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,480 under General Garcia Meza, to power. 648 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,410 (Garcia speaking in foreign language) 649 00:35:00,410 --> 00:35:01,970 Pulling the strings in the background 650 00:35:01,970 --> 00:35:06,380 is a German, Nazi general Klaus Barbie. 651 00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:09,830 A fascist companion, waxes lyrical. 652 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:10,663 (Stefano speaking in foreign language) 653 00:35:10,663 --> 00:35:12,420 I met him when I was in Bolivia. 654 00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:14,130 He's a great character. 655 00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:17,993 Very intelligent, very capable, great integrity. 656 00:35:20,216 --> 00:35:21,380 (dramatic music) 657 00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,680 Klaus Barbie, had won himself the name, 658 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,150 The Butcher of Lyon, for his brutal treatment 659 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:29,260 of members of the resistance opposing German occupation 660 00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:30,563 during World War II. 661 00:35:31,668 --> 00:35:34,501 (dramatic music) 662 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:40,800 After the war, Barbie was hired 663 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,923 by the American intelligence services. 664 00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:45,630 There were different ways 665 00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:49,660 that senior SS and SD officers survived the war. 666 00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:52,170 But they do share a common pattern. 667 00:35:52,170 --> 00:35:55,820 {\an8}And the pattern is something that I call entrepreneurism 668 00:35:55,820 --> 00:35:58,140 {\an8}or intelligence entrepreneurism, 669 00:35:58,140 --> 00:36:00,540 in which they take whatever assets 670 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:05,290 they can lay there hands on and attempt to sell these 671 00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:10,290 or to encourage intelligence services to invest in them. 672 00:36:11,231 --> 00:36:13,471 (suspenseful music) 673 00:36:13,471 --> 00:36:14,304 (gun firing) 674 00:36:14,304 --> 00:36:15,610 Klaus Barbie is a valuable agent 675 00:36:15,610 --> 00:36:17,020 for the Americans. 676 00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:18,547 He uses his knowledge of communists 677 00:36:18,547 --> 00:36:21,926 and the resistance to buy his own freedom. 678 00:36:21,926 --> 00:36:23,290 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 679 00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:25,180 The Americans did everything they could 680 00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:27,660 to ensure that the resistance fighters didn't come 681 00:36:27,660 --> 00:36:29,267 to power after the war. 682 00:36:29,267 --> 00:36:31,360 And Barbie was important for them 683 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,460 because he was able to show the Americans 684 00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:35,840 that he knew the network of collaborators 685 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,200 {\an8}who had worked with the Germans 686 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,880 {\an8}in the occupied areas and in Vichy. 687 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,650 {\an8}It made him really valuable. 688 00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:44,380 With this he had an insight into the blackmail-ability 689 00:36:44,380 --> 00:36:46,613 of the entire French political scene. 690 00:36:49,809 --> 00:36:51,320 (dramatic music) 691 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,490 The Americans initially hide the war criminals 692 00:36:53,490 --> 00:36:56,113 in Germany and then in South America. 693 00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:04,810 They understood particularly the bloody politics 694 00:37:04,810 --> 00:37:06,560 of certain types of intelligence. 695 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,690 {\an8}They understood colonial war. 696 00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:13,690 They had a mentality that was well-suited for colonial war, 697 00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:18,653 it's because they believed themselves to be, 698 00:37:20,615 --> 00:37:23,213 when all is said and done, uber superior. 699 00:37:25,979 --> 00:37:28,030 And thus, were willing to take the lives 700 00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:30,360 of a great many people that they considered 701 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,213 to be inferior for racial or ethnic reasons. 702 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,400 Barbie ultimately becomes 703 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,993 an intelligence service adviser in South America. 704 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,023 In the '70s Operation Condor begins. 705 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:49,130 The American Operation Condor, was a alliance, 706 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:52,540 if you will, between the intelligence agencies 707 00:37:52,540 --> 00:37:54,920 of several South American governments 708 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,780 that at that time were run by fascist 709 00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:01,810 or extreme right-wing parties with well documented histories 710 00:38:01,810 --> 00:38:05,723 of disappearances, abuse, murder of prisoners and so forth. 711 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,970 And that those regimes found Klaus Barbie 712 00:38:10,970 --> 00:38:15,970 to be a very compatible agent for their operations. 713 00:38:16,180 --> 00:38:17,890 A total of 50,000 people 714 00:38:17,890 --> 00:38:19,913 from the alliance nations are murdered. 715 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,746 Once again, the CIA is involved. 716 00:38:23,746 --> 00:38:26,180 (suspenseful music) 717 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:31,128 I call it the red light green light phenomenon. 718 00:38:31,128 --> 00:38:33,730 {\an8}The United States was publicly 719 00:38:33,730 --> 00:38:38,730 {\an8}defending human rights and privately telling these regimes 720 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,430 that what they were doing was okay. 721 00:38:42,430 --> 00:38:44,220 Until they defeated the left, 722 00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:45,770 they should go ahead and do it. 723 00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:48,680 Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was seen 724 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,620 as a driving force behind the CIA policy. 725 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,920 France, Chile and Argentina summon him 726 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,860 to answer questions about human rights violations. 727 00:38:56,860 --> 00:39:00,970 In 2007, Uruguay requests his extradition. 728 00:39:00,970 --> 00:39:03,630 It gradually becomes clear Kissinger was covering 729 00:39:03,630 --> 00:39:07,220 for Operation Condor, even for the death squads. 730 00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:09,310 Among them, is a well-known fascist, 731 00:39:09,310 --> 00:39:11,670 Stefano Delle Chiaie in Bolivia, 732 00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:13,333 leading a troop of mercenaries. 733 00:39:15,211 --> 00:39:16,413 (Friedrich speaking in foreign language) 734 00:39:16,413 --> 00:39:18,530 These Grooms of Death, as they were called, 735 00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:23,120 supported the Cocaine Mafia that staged the coup in Bolivia. 736 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,660 {\an8}And they reaped the rewards. 737 00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:28,350 {\an8}They surged through many Latin American countries 738 00:39:28,350 --> 00:39:30,250 starting counter-revolutions. 739 00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:33,950 Killing, torturing and turning a profit in the process. 740 00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:39,230 The Grooms of Death are financed 741 00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:40,650 by the cocaine trade, 742 00:39:40,650 --> 00:39:44,589 a sector entwined with secret services worldwide. 743 00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:47,339 (dramatic music) 744 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,780 The drugs trade is an ideal source of money. 745 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,600 Everything is top secret 746 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,743 and those involved can be blackmailed. 747 00:39:57,384 --> 00:40:00,384 (suspenseful music) 748 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,910 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 749 00:40:06,910 --> 00:40:09,540 The war against drugs is basically a means 750 00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:11,530 of tricking the public. 751 00:40:11,530 --> 00:40:14,060 Because the real drug trade is run 752 00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:16,370 {\an8}by privileged individuals. 753 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:20,140 {\an8}People who are protected by the intelligence services, 754 00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:23,020 {\an8}who can grow any crop they like, without any risk 755 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:27,203 and sell them in America, Europe, wherever. 756 00:40:36,089 --> 00:40:38,591 The profit margin is astronomical. 757 00:40:38,591 --> 00:40:40,790 And the intelligence services siphon off 758 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:43,013 what they need for their operations. 759 00:40:46,270 --> 00:40:48,480 Klaus Barbie perfected the cocaine trade 760 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,563 in Bolivia among other things. 761 00:40:53,256 --> 00:40:55,293 (Friedrich speaking in foreign language) 762 00:40:55,293 --> 00:40:57,060 Barbie made impressions systematic. 763 00:40:57,060 --> 00:41:00,830 He abolished the system of arbitrary beating and brutality 764 00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:03,690 and introduced systematic torture 765 00:41:03,690 --> 00:41:06,140 and an organized correctional system. 766 00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:07,640 And that was his doom. 767 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,559 Because it meant people became aware of him. 768 00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:11,909 And then he was extradited. 769 00:41:15,650 --> 00:41:17,860 In Lyon in May 1987, 770 00:41:17,860 --> 00:41:19,950 four years after his extradition, 771 00:41:19,950 --> 00:41:23,760 Klaus Barbie was sentenced to lifelong imprisonment. 772 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,797 He died in prison in 1991. 773 00:41:26,797 --> 00:41:28,972 (dramatic music) 774 00:41:28,972 --> 00:41:32,500 (suspenseful music) 775 00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,260 Very few Nazis were ever sentenced. 776 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:38,780 Paul Dickopf, the long serving president of the BKA, 777 00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:42,183 enjoyed the trust of leading politicians until his death. 778 00:41:43,032 --> 00:41:46,032 (suspenseful music) 779 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,024 Although a former SS man and Nazi spy, 780 00:41:52,024 --> 00:41:53,890 Dickopf was hired by the Americans, 781 00:41:53,890 --> 00:41:56,039 even before the end of the war. 782 00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:57,210 {\an8}(Wilhelm speaking in foreign language) 783 00:41:57,210 --> 00:41:58,043 {\an8}At some point, 784 00:41:58,043 --> 00:42:00,130 {\an8}he saw Germany wasn't going to win, 785 00:42:00,130 --> 00:42:02,090 {\an8}so he hung his flag in the wind 786 00:42:02,090 --> 00:42:04,423 and decided it was time to switch sides. 787 00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:09,890 His friend, Francois Genoud, 788 00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:12,150 another Nazi agent, helps him. 789 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:13,880 They know each other from Switzerland 790 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,107 where they even lived together. 791 00:42:16,107 --> 00:42:17,421 (suspenseful music) 792 00:42:17,421 --> 00:42:19,628 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 793 00:42:19,628 --> 00:42:22,600 Genoud was a major banker, a convinced Nazi 794 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,750 {\an8}and a big fan of Hitler's. 795 00:42:24,750 --> 00:42:25,890 {\an8}And he was probably the one 796 00:42:25,890 --> 00:42:29,110 {\an8}who saved Nazi and SS fortunes, after 1945. 797 00:42:34,318 --> 00:42:36,540 Genoud published Goebbels' diaries 798 00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:39,000 and made a lot of money as a result. 799 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,180 He uses the proceeds to finance the defense 800 00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,976 for Adolf Eichmann and Klaus Barbie. 801 00:42:43,976 --> 00:42:47,020 (dramatic music) 802 00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:49,280 He's friends with the terrorists, Carlos 803 00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:56,490 and Wadie Haddad, who was also a KGB agent 804 00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:59,393 and is responsible for numerous brutal attacks. 805 00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:05,790 But Dickopf's connection don't damage his career. 806 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:07,020 On the contrary, 807 00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:10,773 the CIA and its head Adonis advance his career. 808 00:43:13,523 --> 00:43:17,010 (Dieter speaking in foreign language) 809 00:43:17,010 --> 00:43:17,843 {\an8}His connection 810 00:43:17,843 --> 00:43:20,870 {\an8}to the American intelligence services contributed 811 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:24,043 {\an8}to him being employed in the German Interior Ministry. 812 00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:27,630 And then, leading the BKA, 813 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:31,300 Germany's Federal Office of Criminal Investigation, 814 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:34,503 even though he had an SS background. 815 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,395 And I think, although it is just my opinion, 816 00:43:40,395 --> 00:43:44,083 that there was a CIA objective behind his promotion. 817 00:43:46,425 --> 00:43:49,233 I think they wanted to see him in such a position. 818 00:43:55,525 --> 00:43:56,830 (suspenseful music) 819 00:43:56,830 --> 00:43:58,200 Dickopf passed on information 820 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,873 about German politics especially concerning Willy Brandt. 821 00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,840 In confidential meetings the BKA president was party 822 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,217 to top secret intelligence regarding Brandt's Ostpolitik. 823 00:44:13,217 --> 00:44:15,820 (suspenseful music) 824 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:18,530 It was information from a government whose policy 825 00:44:18,530 --> 00:44:22,113 of detente was viewed with skepticism in the US. 826 00:44:24,750 --> 00:44:27,253 How much did Paul Dickopf really know? 827 00:44:28,934 --> 00:44:33,184 (man speaking in foreign language) 828 00:44:34,812 --> 00:44:37,570 (Dieter speaking in foreign language) 829 00:44:37,570 --> 00:44:39,580 He took part in ministry meetings 830 00:44:39,580 --> 00:44:42,380 and was involved at a political level. 831 00:44:42,380 --> 00:44:44,910 {\an8}But to what extent he compromised the sovereignty 832 00:44:44,910 --> 00:44:48,300 {\an8}of West Germany in terms of what he gave away 833 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:49,433 {\an8}no one can say. 834 00:44:52,459 --> 00:44:56,280 {\an8}Dickopf is a window into the highest level security 835 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,410 {\an8}and intelligence issues as viewed 836 00:44:58,410 --> 00:45:01,090 by the German government of that period. 837 00:45:01,090 --> 00:45:05,540 This is high level, elite insight 838 00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:09,473 into the security apparatus of a different country. 839 00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:13,130 In CIA files, Dickopf is described 840 00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:17,590 as a unilateral agent as working exclusively for one side. 841 00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:19,333 Was he simply a traitor? 842 00:45:22,136 --> 00:45:23,838 (Wilhelm speaking in foreign language) 843 00:45:23,838 --> 00:45:25,040 I have a problem with the word traitor 844 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,957 {\an8}in the context of Dickopf 845 00:45:25,957 --> 00:45:28,810 {\an8}because for him it was everyday life. 846 00:45:28,810 --> 00:45:31,120 {\an8}He was committed to both sides. 847 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,210 There was almost certainly a kind of gratitude 848 00:45:33,210 --> 00:45:34,713 towards the Americans as well. 849 00:45:36,206 --> 00:45:37,610 (dramatic music) 850 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:40,110 How badly did Dickopf damage Germany? 851 00:45:44,740 --> 00:45:49,173 In 1972, his friend, Genoud helps to hijack a Lufthansa jet. 852 00:45:50,330 --> 00:45:52,550 The action generates 15 million marks 853 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:55,400 in ransom for Palestinian coffers. 854 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,343 Money that would be used for further terrorist activity. 855 00:46:00,370 --> 00:46:03,170 (people chattering) 856 00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:07,390 In 1972, Genoud also finances the Munich massacre 857 00:46:07,390 --> 00:46:10,443 of the Israeli Olympic team. 858 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,760 The sporting event, 859 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,770 which is supposed to be Germany's big, prestigious moment, 860 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:19,030 becomes one of the country's biggest ever catastrophes 861 00:46:20,536 --> 00:46:23,286 (engine roaring) 862 00:46:24,380 --> 00:46:29,113 when 11 Israeli athletes are murdered as the world looks on. 863 00:46:30,028 --> 00:46:33,231 (suspenseful music) 864 00:46:33,231 --> 00:46:36,231 (explosion booming) 865 00:46:37,688 --> 00:46:39,127 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 866 00:46:39,127 --> 00:46:39,960 {\an8}Genoud was close 867 00:46:40,896 --> 00:46:41,729 {\an8}to Middle East terrorist circles. 868 00:46:41,729 --> 00:46:44,930 Some of which worked with Mossad. 869 00:46:44,930 --> 00:46:47,623 It's a very, very strange structure. 870 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,920 As head of Interpol, 871 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,480 Dickopf is supposed to fight such terrorists financed 872 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,670 by his friend, Genoud. 873 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:58,140 During his time in office there's a rise 874 00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:00,263 in the number of attacks and hijackings. 875 00:47:01,190 --> 00:47:04,540 But Dickopf says Interpol is powerless to stop them. 876 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,060 (Paul speaking in foreign language) 877 00:47:08,060 --> 00:47:10,360 You know that Article three of our statute 878 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,100 prevents the organization from any direct intervention. 879 00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,030 But that should encourage other countries 880 00:47:16,030 --> 00:47:18,853 to be much more active in sharing their intelligence. 881 00:47:21,781 --> 00:47:22,708 (interviewer speaking in foreign language) 882 00:47:22,708 --> 00:47:25,120 So, just because Interpol can't intervene 883 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,930 it doesn't mean other countries can't take bilateral action. 884 00:47:28,930 --> 00:47:31,200 Bilaterally and multilaterally. 885 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,600 They can do whatever they want, 886 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,266 as long as they don't involve Interpol. 887 00:47:35,266 --> 00:47:39,113 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 888 00:47:39,113 --> 00:47:42,340 At the same time as 15 and later 30 planes 889 00:47:42,340 --> 00:47:44,740 were being hijacked in a single year, 890 00:47:44,740 --> 00:47:46,196 the Western states decide 891 00:47:46,196 --> 00:47:50,053 that solving terrorist crimes is not Interpol's job. 892 00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:55,693 It's outrageous. 893 00:47:56,792 --> 00:47:59,130 Dickopf was in contact with Genoud 894 00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:01,339 who he's always meeting up with. 895 00:48:01,339 --> 00:48:05,020 And Genoud finances the people who hijack the planes. 896 00:48:05,020 --> 00:48:08,427 And at the same time Interpol says, "It's not our job." 897 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,760 Did the CIA know 898 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,243 about Dickopf's contacts with Genoud? 899 00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:21,160 Documents prove that they did. 900 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,460 Dickopf himself told the CIA 901 00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:26,589 he had known him since the Second World War. 902 00:48:26,589 --> 00:48:30,390 (suspenseful music) 903 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:33,550 But the open files in Washington don't seem to contain 904 00:48:33,550 --> 00:48:35,620 all the information the CIA claimed 905 00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:37,543 from Dickopf and other Nazis. 906 00:48:40,376 --> 00:48:44,030 The CIA had a conscious, deliberate campaign 907 00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:47,430 {\an8}that was based in their general council's office 908 00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:50,570 {\an8}to obstruct the release of these records 909 00:48:50,570 --> 00:48:52,593 to the maximum extent possible. 910 00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:56,320 And most particularly to obstruct release 911 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,840 of records that dealt with relationships 912 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,610 between informants and agents and the CIA. 913 00:49:03,610 --> 00:49:06,243 Which was the exact point of this, okay? 914 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,680 Christopher Simpson was a member 915 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,279 of the commission that negotiated with the CIA 916 00:49:11,279 --> 00:49:14,286 over the release of the Nazi files. 917 00:49:14,286 --> 00:49:17,550 (suspenseful music) 918 00:49:17,550 --> 00:49:20,143 His experiences are sobering. 919 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,810 In one of the most important categories 920 00:49:22,810 --> 00:49:25,500 that fits into that description 921 00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,190 is what's called foreign government information. 922 00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:32,090 And that's information in which they have obtained 923 00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:37,090 either legally or illegally from a separate government 924 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,150 about that government's affairs. 925 00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:43,770 This is why the, 926 00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:46,670 and you'll see this in a Skorzeny file, 927 00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:47,960 you'll see it in the Dickopf file, 928 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,860 you'll see it in the Klaus Barbie file, 929 00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:54,710 that to this day most people aren't familiar 930 00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:57,710 with this reality but there are nevertheless continued 931 00:49:57,710 --> 00:50:00,493 to be withheld records in those files. 932 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,600 This policy prevents historians 933 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,441 and journalists from getting to the bottom 934 00:50:06,441 --> 00:50:10,034 of important espionage operations. 935 00:50:10,034 --> 00:50:13,217 (dramatic music) 936 00:50:13,217 --> 00:50:16,014 (Andreas speaking in foreign language) 937 00:50:16,014 --> 00:50:18,063 The CIA is a global service 938 00:50:18,063 --> 00:50:21,640 {\an8}with a huge budget and incredible possibilities 939 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,273 {\an8}because it also benefits from the drugs trade. 940 00:50:25,127 --> 00:50:28,053 And it exerts influence in all kinds of countries. 941 00:50:29,830 --> 00:50:32,220 All over Europe, it influences politics, 942 00:50:32,220 --> 00:50:35,430 the perception of the enemy, public opinion. 943 00:50:35,430 --> 00:50:38,490 It engages in psychological warfare. 944 00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:43,480 So, if I have an organization like the CIA, at my disposal 945 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,480 I can push a democracy in the way 946 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,720 the Italian democracy was pushed. 947 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,900 And in the way that certain political processes here 948 00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:52,250 might have been influenced. 949 00:50:56,004 --> 00:50:56,888 (Wilhelm speaking in foreign language) 950 00:50:56,888 --> 00:50:57,721 An intelligence service 951 00:50:57,721 --> 00:50:58,833 is not the Boy Scouts. 952 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,500 Many intelligence service activities 953 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,370 from the Cold War era have still not been opened 954 00:51:06,370 --> 00:51:07,763 to public scrutiny. 955 00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,900 This includes the operations which turned war criminals 956 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:15,982 and fascists into collaborators. 957 00:51:15,982 --> 00:51:18,815 (dramatic music)